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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

APZL9YYTQZXUZUOZ9KMVP9IMXBZNYX9QMERGVJ9K9QXZQACSFEUIFIDOOLSPUZGHG9LCRSVQQIVYPMRMDQQIEKGVFC

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

thanks for your reply Winstonton, 

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

Also thank you for your reply and help. But I this must b wrong.  A foundation can initiate a class action suit on behalf of the users of this community.

Isn't that why they exist, and if they can not help resolve this then what are they good for?

Hello, I am confused by the whole thing.
My balance is still in the wallet, but transaction is pending.
TCYIOHEKE9ANDPCNZZAQMJKKTRXXNAIG9ORFXUWSCUCYFUXCPMBAVUCQBOATFSTXVBTGGJTZCDMRNXHR9NGWFPRDJW
this is my adress. What can I do to stop the transaction?
Thx for help.
Antworten gerne auch auf deutsch
Danke für die Hilfe

Winston, I do realize that you are an everyday individual. Here's my problem and probably many others have the same problem. How do we know "WHO" took our investment from us? All we have are our seeds, hashes, and tangles. We have no hard evidence to go to the authorities with. As another "FAMILY" member made note of that it's IOTAS system that was hacked and not just 1 or 2 accounts. This is their responsibility to respond to the situation and not let you handle all the heat about it. I know you want to do the right thing for us but you don't have the pay grade to go with all this aggravation. I'm on your side BTW.

Hi
I lost 3.001 Gi . The funds was send to AFUKOEVPJLMVCSEAQIFZDXARCS9CEBGAHNWMJZQHQP9TLCLKUCFUSQZOZFGZKSLZSO9KNSPRKUOVMRVSXFVIETDGQW

Someone has stolen 792.1 IOTA from my wallet.

The receiving adress was:

HRDQDNCEACXQIRLK9OXPDHHBVQPCVDDWLUGKBYHXYPNQCFUBNCUPBYEQACAFDPGKGWOILLHIMLFF
Z9999

Is there a way to get my Iota‘s back?

Thanks for any help,

Daniel

Hi all,

Someone has stolen 792.1 IOTA from my wallet.

The receiving adress was:

HRDQDNCEACXQIRLK9OXPDHHBVQPCVDDWLUGKBYHXYPNQCFUBNCUPBYEQACAFDPGKGWOILLHIMLFFZ9999

Is there a way to get my Iota‘s back?

Thanks for any help,

Daniel

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

Also thank you for your reply and help. But I this must b wrong.  A foundation can initiate a class action suit on behalf of the users of this community.

Isn't that why they exist, and if they can not help resolve this then what are they good for?

@lostiota_j
"Isn't that why they exist, and if they can not help resolve this then what are they good for?"

I don't know anything about the legal matters, but the Foundation's sole purpose is to develop a software protocol. So they're not good for anything besides researching mathematics/economic conditions, writing code, and making business partnerships. Anything outside of that narrow scope is not really value added -- it would be much more efficient for the legal minded individuals in the community to work together and pursue the criminal(s). If something comes up in the legal case where extra information is needed, it's probably safe to speculate that the Foundation would provide authorities with whatever limited information they have in order to help the victims' case. 

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LuckyDude - 22 Jan 2018

Hello, I am confused by the whole thing.
My balance is still in the wallet, but transaction is pending.
TCYIOHEKE9ANDPCNZZAQMJKKTRXXNAIG9ORFXUWSCUCYFUXCPMBAVUCQBOATFSTXVBTGGJTZCDMRNXHR9NGWFPRDJW
this is my adress. What can I do to stop the transaction?
Thx for help.
Antworten gerne auch auf deutsch
Danke für die Hilfe

@LuckyDude
URGENTLY follow these steps to save your balance from being stolen:
1. If the stolen transaction is still pending (it'll say "Pending" underneath the transaction in your wallet history), URGENTLY send your entire balance to an address in a different seed. You might need to use the CLI wallet in order to make this new transaction so that you can bypass the double spending prevention mechanism that's built into the GUI wallet. You need to get your new transaction confirmed before the stolen transaction is confirmed.
CLI Wallet -
https://github.com/MichaelSchwab/iota-commandline-wallet
https://github.com/TimSamshuijzen/iotaproxy
CLI Wallet Instructions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7rlvx5/how_to_how_to_maybe_rescue_your_funds_before_the/
-- or -- https://forum.helloiota.com/post/8584

For those who need urgent real-time assistance, join the IOTA Discord channel and ask for help immediately:
https://discord.gg/fNGZXvh

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mm1alf - 22 Jan 2018

Winston, I do realize that you are an everyday individual. Here's my problem and probably many others have the same problem. How do we know "WHO" took our investment from us? All we have are our seeds, hashes, and tangles. We have no hard evidence to go to the authorities with. As another "FAMILY" member made note of that it's IOTAS system that was hacked and not just 1 or 2 accounts. This is their responsibility to respond to the situation and not let you handle all the heat about it. I know you want to do the right thing for us but you don't have the pay grade to go with all this aggravation. I'm on your side BTW.

@mm1alf
Thank you for the post, and your kind words are very much appreciated.

I guess we'll just have to see how the situation plays out. I hate seeing so many people lose their funds, so I'm going to continue trying to help however I can here on the forum.

My transaction is confirmed, all it's gonne, very painful lesson.

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

Also thank you for your reply and help. But I this must b wrong.  A foundation can initiate a class action suit on behalf of the users of this community.

Isn't that why they exist, and if they can not help resolve this then what are they good for?

@lostiota_j
"Isn't that why they exist, and if they can not help resolve this then what are they good for?"

I don't know anything about the legal matters, but the Foundation's sole purpose is to develop a software protocol. So they're not good for anything besides researching mathematics/economic conditions, writing code, and making business partnerships. Anything outside of that narrow scope is not really value added -- it would be much more efficient for the legal minded individuals in the community to work together and pursue the criminal(s). If something comes up in the legal case where extra information is needed, it's probably safe to speculate that the Foundation would provide authorities with whatever limited information they have in order to help the victims' case. 

As a long time supporter, after this I can only say the foundation seems only good at making business partnerships, the code is dangerous at best.

Maybe after a CEO at one of their business partnerships losses all his coins, then @DavidSonstebolisten will feel he needs to respond to this wallet failure. /

hi, I'm another that seems to of been hacked. lost 105.4 mi. 
the address it went to is :? XTWBZTKIHCIHYBYNOHHXFJ9XLF9COCTLNAVMKVKKFELASASUOXDO9IKDES9NWRTLUWCJLOAPHPOYWROCZFCALJNYQC
confirmed!!!!!
it baffles me that these so called geniuses at iota and other companies can build platforms to run the world, but can't build a wallet that is secure for us to store the their coins on, that they want us to buy???? I wonder how many people won't be buying iotas after this????  

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

Reading through the threads, almost all of IOTAs looks stolen in 1/19. Also the hash includes many 9999999... it looks like something coincident with certain IOTA system activity related. It looks too unclear to blame solely users online downloads. 

My Iota were also stolen. 3.879 Gi. The seed was also generated at Iotaseed. io. I air-gapped my computer to generate the seed, so I guess I though I was safe. Nope, the "random" seeds weren't random. Iota devs are reckless to not have a seed generator built into the wallet, but none of us should have generated a seed from a website, even if we opened the page and then went offline to generate the seed. The TX hash is TWTAXSLGSMDKKGAKYHYBDI99BFDDAYRGVESXEDTRMUMESUSVDLPGLHEHDLDXFPSFNRFPXWWTSJCOZ9999

I lost my 886.2 MIOTA too.   It is a sad day.  Looks like mine was stolen on 1/18/2018 at 18:42.
TX hash :NDVRYZSCXVDAUBKTJTVVLP9KKQFJEVGJPKTJGD9FTIHWAYMRSWGLYICXDRJ9QVMNUIGHXKRZ9JNGA9999

address: ENNKBZQWPOHNOJBVRZPNAIW9KJQBVVCQQHOCCOH9ZPUT9DVEHAAMEGEKGBCRLYZSEJTICHVNAWVPCCVDBWVQTNF9VZ

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018

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Winston - 22 Jan 2018

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018

I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af

@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I am wondering if IOTA can take any action link to exchanges considering that thieves (group or individuals) will bring tons of IOTA into exchanges (not many IOTA exchanges currently) and cash them. Is there any action IOTA team can take for this users community?

@MMkrypto
The Foundation can't pursue legal action or anything, and there's nothing they can do other than to alert exchanges of this weekend's events. We've compiled a pretty good blacklist of addresses so far that we can give to the Foundation (they are aware of this list). But everything is up to individual community members, ya know? People need to be banding together to pursue the thief by reporting the theft to their local authorities and looking into filing for legal action.

I don't really know anything about this stuff though. I'm just some random guy who volunteers his free time to answer questions here on the forum. This is all way over my head. It seemed logical to write a few threads that would allow the community to come together and pool their knowledge and resources in an effort to resolve this situation. But who know how that'll play out. I hope my (very) minimal efforts here have been worthwhile

Reading through the threads, almost all of IOTAs looks stolen in 1/19. Also the hash includes many 9999999... it looks like something coincident with certain IOTA system activity related. It looks too unclear to blame solely users online downloads. 

@MMkrypto
Certainly a possibility. Maybe some forensics people here  in the community can find the time to dig into all of the transactions and map out the paths