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All my IOTA (397 MIOTA) has been stolen at 19/1/2018 03:35 from my IOTA light wallet and send to this adress:
YGCCEMWOJGEXFKHCWNNIGMFPIZDOYJYIJAOUAFGJVQUVVVODFOSFXYPWPI9UJNGQZXSXJVUPQQUKQFEWDX9YUZHCWD

This is the first ever wallet theft i encouraged while I just followed the guidelines how to set up the wallet!! Is there a way to advocate this issue with the adress i provided???

Hoping to get some support... 
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This is also the first time I was scammed by following wallet documentaion... it stinks

56.55 Gi all lost!!

https://thetangle.org/transaction/YJGUHJWMB9DKCJJCVDKQLR9Y9JISORJGKYLIXNDKNCFXKMPVTSVSSOP9QXGLKVIBLLIUHXLXKFC999999

Is there anything that can be done yet?
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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
This is also the first time I was scammed by following wallet documentaion... it stinks

56.55 Gi all lost!!

https://thetangle.org/transaction/YJGUHJWMB9DKCJJCVDKQLR9Y9JISORJGKYLIXNDKNCFXKMPVTSVSSOP9QXGLKVIBLLIUHXLXKFC999999

Is there anything that can be done yet?

iotaseed.io was recommended to be used to help fix those had lost balance problem from the screwed up wallet release.

Well I think it's safe to say this is by far the worst wallet experience ever, no way this belongs as a top 10 coin. It is not ready
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Lawsuits should start with iotaseed.io, iota.org, their foundation and name all the large companies, pushing this malware/software that is repeatly caused their users to lose funds and wallets. 

At this point, one must guess that the people behind iota are putting out bad wallet software to scam people of their coins.

$ whois iotaseed.io
Domain Name: IOTASEED.IO
Registry Domain ID: D503300000042872196-LRMS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-10-15T20:31:54Z
Creation Date: 2017-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-01-22T15:40:24Z <<<

Website image:
https://imgur.com/POdIuwX
Quote "Taken down. Apologies"

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
Lawsuits should start with iotaseed.io, iota.org, their foundation and name all the large companies, pushing this malware/software that is repeatly caused their users to lose funds and wallets. 

At this point, one must guess that the people behind iota are putting out bad wallet software to scam people of their coins.

$ whois iotaseed.io
Domain Name: IOTASEED.IO
Registry Domain ID: D503300000042872196-LRMS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-10-15T20:31:54Z
Creation Date: 2017-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-01-22T15:40:24Z <<<

Website image:
https://imgur.com/POdIuwX
Quote "Taken down. Apologies"

I forgot to include the CEO in charge of this disaster at IOTA...
David Sønstebø @DavidSonstebo
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Seeing this endless list, this is beyond description. I dont know if blaming or judging victims is enough to figure out this situation for the IOTA team. Checking the news now, the article indicates, "Hackers has reportedly broke into an online IOTA seed generator website iotaseed.io"  My question is, does that mean if the iotaseed site was originally related to IOTA.
Although I got into cryptoworld lately, this would be one of the uglist and most ridiculous incident by now. Quote from the same article, "The attackers knew the seeds. You invited them into your wallet....by handing them your keys on a silver platter...." Excuse me? How IOTA  (legit) tech was open to illegit seed randomly generated by hackers? was it the wallet highly advanced tech system developed for users or technicians for your own community? The wallet system was totally unprotected which could set at least a second key recognizing only IOTA system. All the victims should gather an integrity to act out for our rights and funds. 
Come and  lets talk about our loss
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IOTAS - let's talk.
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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018
Seeing this endless list, this is beyond description. I dont know if blaming or judging victims is enough to figure out this situation for the IOTA team. Checking the news now, the article indicates, "Hackers has reportedly broke into an online IOTA seed generator website iotaseed.io"  My question is, does that mean if the iotaseed site was originally related to IOTA.
Although I got into cryptoworld lately, this would be one of the uglist and most ridiculous incident by now. Quote from the same article, "The attackers knew the seeds. You invited them into your wallet....by handing them your keys on a silver platter...." Excuse me? How IOTA  (legit) tech was open to illegit seed randomly generated by hackers? was it the wallet highly advanced tech system developed for users or technicians for your own community? The wallet system was totally unprotected which could set at least a second key recognizing only IOTA system. All the victims should gather an integrity to act out for our rights and funds. 
Come and  lets talk about our loss
@
IOTAS - let's talk.

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Amount:
200.145384 Mi

Sent to this Address:
CTORMCUAAMTBPK9XPSQEHJPARDRA9XTPUWC9EEARSWMZNTYAWXGLEVXVKQDXKBHARUFZEKBGSVKFJYHMZ

Transaction Hash:
UNVBMBTCRRHEGFFHTIFCSZKMRBGDIKYP9ARTGJMWXWPQKI9I9JDDTGL9XCVYLJIONCUBOCEYCLMZ99999
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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
Lawsuits should start with iotaseed.io, iota.org, their foundation and name all the large companies, pushing this malware/software that is repeatly caused their users to lose funds and wallets. 

At this point, one must guess that the people behind iota are putting out bad wallet software to scam people of their coins.

$ whois iotaseed.io
Domain Name: IOTASEED.IO
Registry Domain ID: D503300000042872196-LRMS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-10-15T20:31:54Z
Creation Date: 2017-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-01-22T15:40:24Z <<<

Website image:
https://imgur.com/POdIuwX
Quote "Taken down. Apologies"

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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
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Lawsuits should start with iotaseed.io, iota.org, their foundation and name all the large companies, pushing this malware/software that is repeatly caused their users to lose funds and wallets. 

At this point, one must guess that the people behind iota are putting out bad wallet software to scam people of their coins.

$ whois iotaseed.io
Domain Name: IOTASEED.IO
Registry Domain ID: D503300000042872196-LRMS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-10-15T20:31:54Z
Creation Date: 2017-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-08-16T12:11:37Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-01-22T15:40:24Z <<<

Website image:
https://imgur.com/POdIuwX
Quote "Taken down. Apologies"

I forgot to include the CEO in charge of this disaster at IOTA...
David Sønstebø @DavidSonstebo

Thanks for your quick reaction for this situation.  so what can I do? I lost 17GI. Do I send an email posted in your email?
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MMkrypto - 22 Jan 2018
Seeing this endless list, this is beyond description. I dont know if blaming or judging victims is enough to figure out this situation for the IOTA team. Checking the news now, the article indicates, "Hackers has reportedly broke into an online IOTA seed generator website iotaseed.io"  My question is, does that mean if the iotaseed site was originally related to IOTA.
Although I got into cryptoworld lately, this would be one of the uglist and most ridiculous incident by now. Quote from the same article, "The attackers knew the seeds. You invited them into your wallet....by handing them your keys on a silver platter...." Excuse me? How IOTA  (legit) tech was open to illegit seed randomly generated by hackers? was it the wallet highly advanced tech system developed for users or technicians for your own community? The wallet system was totally unprotected which could set at least a second key recognizing only IOTA system. All the victims should gather an integrity to act out for our rights and funds. 
Come and  lets talk about our loss
@
IOTAS - let's talk.

@MMkrypto
"My question is, does that mean if the iotaseed site was originally related to IOTA."
The IOTA Foundation only has one official website. iota.org 
The Foundation and community have stressed from the start the importance of safe seed generation practices (i.e. not using online seed generators)
The scam websites are not related to the official IOTA project.

" Excuse me? How IOTA (legit) tech was open to illegit seed randomly generated by hackers? was it the wallet highly advanced tech system developed for users or technicians for your own community? The wallet system was totally unprotected which could set at least a second key recognizing only IOTA system."
Interestingly, the IOTA wallet itself is one of the most secure wallets out there. The problem is that the UX is bad for newcomers who don't know how to use it. This is not putting blame on anyone, just stating facts (as evidenced by the recent event). It's important to understand that there were no 'hackers'. It was just people who convinced other people to use seeds that were also held by thieves. Social engineering, not software hacks.

"All the victims should gather an integrity to act out for our rights and funds."
Absolutely! Take legal action against the criminals who created the scam websites and stole your funds. Someone needs to spear head a class action lawsuit so that others can join
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I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af


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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af


I agree. Unless users' community, how the IOTA tech can have come to this far? 
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$ whois iota.org
Domain Name: IOTA.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D2166953-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: http://www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2018-01-04T10:14:59Z
Creation Date: 1997-09-30T04:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-09-29T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: C200845408-LROR
Registrant Name: Dominik Schiener
Registrant Organization: IOTA Foundation
Registrant Street: Strassbrugerstrasse 55
Registrant Street: c/o Nextland
Registrant City: Berlin
Registrant State/Province: Berlin
Registrant Postal Code: 10405
Registrant Country: DE
Registrant Phone: +49.1431240432
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: contact@iota.org
Registry Admin ID: C200845018-LROR
Admin Name: Dominik Schiener
Admin Organization: IOTA Foundation
Admin Street: Schluterstrasse 55
Admin City: Berlin
Admin State/Province: Berlin
Admin Postal Code: 10629
Admin Country: DE
Admin Phone: +49.1431240432
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: contact@iota.org
Registry Admin ID: C200845022-LROR
Admin Name: Dominik Schiener
Admin Organization: IOTA Foundation
Admin Street: Schluterstrasse 55
Admin City: Berlin
Admin State/Province: Berlin
Admin Postal Code: 10629
Admin Country: DE
Admin Phone: +49.1431240432
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: contact@iota.org
Registry Admin ID: C200845408-LROR
Admin Name: Dominik Schiener
Admin Organization: IOTA Foundation
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Admin Email: contact@iota.org
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So after the largest theft so far, IOTA.org is doing a snapshot of all the user's balances to determine the direction of the next fork.

So many people lost money and dev's arrogance is the part that stinks the most.

Easy solution, backdate the snapshot as of 1-18-2018. 

*edit date to 24 hours before first reported theft.
Edited Last Year by lostiota_j
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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af


@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

Edited Last Year by Winston
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lostiota_j - 22 Jan 2018
I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again.
archive.org shows the iota seed generator required as well as the forums posts about it.
https://imgur.com/AKpd8Af


@lostiota_j
"I see the developers are willing to blame the users, ages old battle. However, it's a shame they can't see their role in this. So many people got burned again."

This is an definitely an extremely frustrating situation for everyone involved. Could you point to the comments from developers who are blaming the users? I'm curious to see that discourse.

I think this about sums it up, people are asking for a response to this theft and what is going to be done about it. Right now it's trying to be ignored and blamed on users... oh yes lots of lost money too. 

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You might want to see a doctor.

In reply to a news request for information regarding the substantial loss of user's IOTA funds

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