My IOTA is missing from my wallet. Please help


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Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron
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Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999
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Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999

That's correct. PL90......... for 5.0GI is my address as well as 
BOHGFMUKMDFPUXSPC9VGYTSDJHMIDIEVEHBTUZ9ZCNGXSM9BMVUQRF9BWAHKLSTIAFJNHWN9RONIDWJKCBLKNSPQDY for 4.9GI
I have made no transfer outs since dep[ositing the tokens in my wallet Jan2 and 4th , 2018
Byron

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Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999

I transferred a total of 10GI to my wallet
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Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999

Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999
This one is still showing pending for 


07/01/2018 03:44
YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
Show bundle Pending
-5.0+ GiHISTORY



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Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hello,
I purchased Iota on Jan.2 and 4/18. I just purchased more and opened my wallet to receive the new tokens and discovered that my balance was zero.
There are 2 transfers out Jan.7/18 to the following addresses

 YWCPWBEDIKIPAPKNTAPSXWSQZ9ZZURPTVZCN9SEBGOWDRGUYUYJOBWSINYOHNDL9BIMIBHHJCBLXCXXJCSWMQVJGQ9
BUSXOVAKTOVJMGNZ9BWXRAYSV9QOI9MHGYSJASCDIHIMNXPNITKNAGMTCIFOMBFZQJRZJLCQCBTRTTANBLBFBKMIWX

Has someone stolen my IOTA?

thanks
Byron

@Byron
Thanks for the post, and welcome to the community. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed.

Is this your address?
https://thetangle.org/address/PL9OWHTNMBEZDNQTHQJAW9GRZSPZVMDKUJIMXRFAYJKNIHDYWLHECTOKSGEEVUTVDHJVWQQJSEKZPUPSY

And you didn't make the -5.03 Gi transfer 2 days ago?
https://thetangle.org/transaction/PNUDUTUYTBBQBTUWYLHHHWZCYHULR9FQSUM9VULGLOVBABBATSBKDSRAPZKDHPSKKXKBWN9KJG9MZ9999

That's correct. PL90......... for 5.0GI is my address as well as 
BOHGFMUKMDFPUXSPC9VGYTSDJHMIDIEVEHBTUZ9ZCNGXSM9BMVUQRF9BWAHKLSTIAFJNHWN9RONIDWJKCBLKNSPQDY for 4.9GI
I have made no transfer outs since dep[ositing the tokens in my wallet Jan2 and 4th , 2018
Byron

@Byron
Really sorry to see this situation. Since you weren't the one who made these outgoing transactions, this appears to have been a theft.

The most common cause of this version of theft is from using an online seed generator.
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Hi Winston,
Is there no way of getting my tokens back since fraud has been committed?
There should be safe guards in place to reverse fraudulent transactions certainly when a hardware wallet is not available.
Can the culprit be traced by the address it went to and reversed?
THIS REALLY SUCKS AND I AM OUT $37,341 US !
Byron
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Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hi Winston,
Is there no way of getting my tokens back since fraud has been committed?
There should be safe guards in place to reverse fraudulent transactions certainly when a hardware wallet is not available.
Can the culprit be traced by the address it went to and reversed?
THIS REALLY SUCKS AND I AM OUT $37,341 US !
Byron

@Byron
Horrible situation indeed.
As frustrating as this is to hear right now, this is sort of the nature of cryptocurrency. There was a big seed generator fraud website going around a few months ago, and when people asked me what could be done about their stolen funds I recommended looking into some sort of class action legal suit. I don't know what ever came of that, but I still think it would be worth a shot if you could find a few others who used the same online seed generator that you did, and link up to file a class action suit of some sort.

If the thief is intelligent, they will have covered their bases and be impossible to trace down, but it's worth a shot at least, right?

Sorry again to see your situation. Let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.
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Winston - 9 Jan 2018
Byron - 9 Jan 2018
Hi Winston,
Is there no way of getting my tokens back since fraud has been committed?
There should be safe guards in place to reverse fraudulent transactions certainly when a hardware wallet is not available.
Can the culprit be traced by the address it went to and reversed?
THIS REALLY SUCKS AND I AM OUT $37,341 US !
Byron

@Byron
Horrible situation indeed.
As frustrating as this is to hear right now, this is sort of the nature of cryptocurrency. There was a big seed generator fraud website going around a few months ago, and when people asked me what could be done about their stolen funds I recommended looking into some sort of class action legal suit. I don't know what ever came of that, but I still think it would be worth a shot if you could find a few others who used the same online seed generator that you did, and link up to file a class action suit of some sort.

If the thief is intelligent, they will have covered their bases and be impossible to trace down, but it's worth a shot at least, right?

Sorry again to see your situation. Let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.

You guys are also to blame.Before you even issue tokens for sale you should have a secured way of storing them for all your token holders. You haven't done so. If you are unable to have a hardware supplier like Ledger Nano S carry your wallet, you should have in place a secured step by step procedure they can follow to secure their tokens. (like having seeds generated through your secured web-site.) I am done with all cryptocurrencies that don't have this in place to protect their token holders. IOTA is directly participating in making this the wild wild west. Shame on you. The majority of token holders are NOT computer wizards. ESTABLISH PROTECTIVE MEASURES FOR YOUR TOKEN HOLDERS. Support the people who are supporting you!
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Everyone agrees that IOTA isn't the most user friendly protocol right now, so I sympathize with you on that point. But the key is to avoid getting involved with difficult things that you're uncomfortable with. Most people should wait a year or two for the IOTA protocol to be much more built-out and foolproof for everyday users.

Please remember that I'm just a random guy who answers these forum questions in my free time, and I don't think any of the Foundation members post in here. Sorry again for your difficulties, and best of luck in the future.
Edited 7 days ago @ 9:59 by Winston
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