Help! My IOTA balance is zero! (steps to help you find your balance v2.5.7)


Help! My IOTA balance is zero! (steps to help you find your balance...
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Alexa - 12 Apr 2019
vict - 12 Apr 2019
Hi. I lost 706.8 Miota from this address:

https://thetangle.org/address/AVJUUEYUOTTJRYVAJMUCTZI9HHVPSXDAYKLVKZZWUDREHPXCR9IWFYVRQVU9VLIHTYYIONYVACTN99VYC

Someone sent 5 transactions of 141.36 Miota to this address: 

https://thetangle.org/address/RTHIWYV99MIYXOUWSXZHLCCFTEOPYKMCUWQIA9P9OMEPDGXWENOCVCNOTQIQCCDPIJONKSCYQKJXWRWM9

That happened suddenly, without my knowledge.

Is it possible to get the funds back?

Hi @vict,

welcome to Hello IOTA.
The cause of this situation is that you received funds to this address a second time after you had already sent from it on January 22nd.
Address reuse needs to be avoided for security reasons as explained for example here: https://iotasupport.com/how-addresses-are-used-in-IOTA.shtml and with a nice litte piggybank-image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7cze8u/iota_address_reuse_explained_for_laymen/.

Now, what happened is that someone simply reattached this old transaction over and over again on April 5th. Anyone could do this since all addresses are public and reattaching doesn’t require any signature. The good news is that because it doesn’t require any signature, a reattached transaction can never be changed to be different from the original. That’s why your funds all ended up on the same address that you originally sent to on January 22nd. Everything is still on that address and to get it back you need to remember were you sent your funds to the first time. When you’ve figured that out, either access that address if it’s one of your own or contact the person who received your first transfer on January 22nd and ask them to return the part that got sent in April.
Since you didn’t mention the last transaction for the remaining 127.71 Mi, can I assume that you sent these to a different address yourself?

Hi, Alexa
Thank you for your reply.
That was an exchange address. They said that returning funds may take a month or even more because the tech support is very busy. I will try to contact them in a month however there is a big chance that the funds are lost Sad
Is there any other way toreturn the funds?
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vict - 13 Apr 2019
Alexa - 12 Apr 2019
vict - 12 Apr 2019
Hi. I lost 706.8 Miota from this address:

https://thetangle.org/address/AVJUUEYUOTTJRYVAJMUCTZI9HHVPSXDAYKLVKZZWUDREHPXCR9IWFYVRQVU9VLIHTYYIONYVACTN99VYC

Someone sent 5 transactions of 141.36 Miota to this address: 

https://thetangle.org/address/RTHIWYV99MIYXOUWSXZHLCCFTEOPYKMCUWQIA9P9OMEPDGXWENOCVCNOTQIQCCDPIJONKSCYQKJXWRWM9

That happened suddenly, without my knowledge.

Is it possible to get the funds back?

Hi @vict,

welcome to Hello IOTA.
The cause of this situation is that you received funds to this address a second time after you had already sent from it on January 22nd.
Address reuse needs to be avoided for security reasons as explained for example here: https://iotasupport.com/how-addresses-are-used-in-IOTA.shtml and with a nice litte piggybank-image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7cze8u/iota_address_reuse_explained_for_laymen/.

Now, what happened is that someone simply reattached this old transaction over and over again on April 5th. Anyone could do this since all addresses are public and reattaching doesn’t require any signature. The good news is that because it doesn’t require any signature, a reattached transaction can never be changed to be different from the original. That’s why your funds all ended up on the same address that you originally sent to on January 22nd. Everything is still on that address and to get it back you need to remember were you sent your funds to the first time. When you’ve figured that out, either access that address if it’s one of your own or contact the person who received your first transfer on January 22nd and ask them to return the part that got sent in April.
Since you didn’t mention the last transaction for the remaining 127.71 Mi, can I assume that you sent these to a different address yourself?

Hi, Alexa
Thank you for your reply.
That was an exchange address. They said that returning funds may take a month or even more because the tech support is very busy. I will try to contact them in a month however there is a big chance that the funds are lost Sad
Is there any other way toreturn the funds?

Hey @vict, try not to worry too much. Your situation is certainly unfortunate, but I don’t believe that your funds are lost.
Exchanges are usually very cooperative. Users make all kinds of mistakes and in my experience if an exchange has a chance to fix things, they almost certainly will. It really shouldn’t be a big problem for them either. If they credited your first transfer from January to your exchange account, it’s very clear that this is your deposit address and your funds.

To answer your question: no, there’s no other way to return your funds as confirmed transactions can not be reversed or something like that.

By the way, I think that the person who did this is on some kind of a mission to teach people not to reuse their addresses. If you look at the foreign reattachments in the explorer they all have a tag: KILROY9WAS9HERE999999999999. The same tag was used in more than 4.000 other transactions, so if that's any consolation you’re not the only one. While „Kilroy’s“ method is quite questionable, I think you might as well make the best of this and learn from it.
Keep in touch with the exchange, it sure will be alright in the end.

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Alexa - 13 Apr 2019
vict - 13 Apr 2019
Alexa - 12 Apr 2019
vict - 12 Apr 2019
Hi. I lost 706.8 Miota from this address:

https://thetangle.org/address/AVJUUEYUOTTJRYVAJMUCTZI9HHVPSXDAYKLVKZZWUDREHPXCR9IWFYVRQVU9VLIHTYYIONYVACTN99VYC

Someone sent 5 transactions of 141.36 Miota to this address: 

https://thetangle.org/address/RTHIWYV99MIYXOUWSXZHLCCFTEOPYKMCUWQIA9P9OMEPDGXWENOCVCNOTQIQCCDPIJONKSCYQKJXWRWM9

That happened suddenly, without my knowledge.

Is it possible to get the funds back?

Hi @vict,

welcome to Hello IOTA.
The cause of this situation is that you received funds to this address a second time after you had already sent from it on January 22nd.
Address reuse needs to be avoided for security reasons as explained for example here: https://iotasupport.com/how-addresses-are-used-in-IOTA.shtml and with a nice litte piggybank-image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7cze8u/iota_address_reuse_explained_for_laymen/.

Now, what happened is that someone simply reattached this old transaction over and over again on April 5th. Anyone could do this since all addresses are public and reattaching doesn’t require any signature. The good news is that because it doesn’t require any signature, a reattached transaction can never be changed to be different from the original. That’s why your funds all ended up on the same address that you originally sent to on January 22nd. Everything is still on that address and to get it back you need to remember were you sent your funds to the first time. When you’ve figured that out, either access that address if it’s one of your own or contact the person who received your first transfer on January 22nd and ask them to return the part that got sent in April.
Since you didn’t mention the last transaction for the remaining 127.71 Mi, can I assume that you sent these to a different address yourself?

Hi, Alexa
Thank you for your reply.
That was an exchange address. They said that returning funds may take a month or even more because the tech support is very busy. I will try to contact them in a month however there is a big chance that the funds are lost Sad
Is there any other way toreturn the funds?

Hey @vict, try not to worry too much. Your situation is certainly unfortunate, but I don’t believe that your funds are lost.
Exchanges are usually very cooperative. Users make all kinds of mistakes and in my experience if an exchange has a chance to fix things, they almost certainly will. It really shouldn’t be a big problem for them either. If they credited your first transfer from January to your exchange account, it’s very clear that this is your deposit address and your funds.

To answer your question: no, there’s no other way to return your funds as confirmed transactions can not be reversed or something like that.

By the way, I think that the person who did this is on some kind of a mission to teach people not to reuse their addresses. If you look at the foreign reattachments in the explorer they all have a tag: KILROY9WAS9HERE999999999999. The same tag was used in more than 4.000 other transactions, so if that's any consolation you’re not the only one. While „Kilroy’s“ method is quite questionable, I think you might as well make the best of this and learn from it.
Keep in touch with the exchange, it sure will be alright in the end.

Those who lost IOTA with KILROY's method, especially big amounts, will never use IOTA in future. I still hope to get back my IOTAs.
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I have the same problem, VICT you could solve the problem?
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I have made trial transaction 1 miota on an exchange, but transaction pending for some months, but several days ago it(she) has come,
But together with it all my others have disappeared almost iotas, but not completely.

I have correctly understood that my means now on balance of an exchange and I need to contact exchange support?

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mattycz - 8 Apr 2019
Hi @Winston. I found a backup of mine Trinity Wallet on my cellphone  that made me, that mine seed is correct.
Where else could be a problem ? I am desperate. Please help me. Thx

@mattycz 
Unfortunately, the only way you'll be able to gain access to your funds on the FQUE... address is by generating that address. In order to generate the address, you'll need to be in the seed that corresponds that that address. If none of the seeds that you've got are generating FQUE... , then there must have been a typo in the seed used to originally login and generate the FQUE... receive address. This is the nature of cryptography in distributed ledgers, so unfortunately this is the trade off of the supreme security of this new technology - there's no recourse for a lost or mistyped seed.
 
 
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sarmatex555 - 22 Apr 2019
I have made trial transaction 1 miota on an exchange, but transaction pending for some months, but several days ago it(she) has come,
But together with it all my others have disappeared almost iotas, but not completely.

I have correctly understood that my means now on balance of an exchange and I need to contact exchange support?

@sarmatex555
Thanks for the posts. Your situation has been answered in the stand-alone thread that you posted in this forum. Unfortunately it looks like your address was probably reused, allowing a thief to forge the already used transaction signature to take your funds.
 

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sarmatex555 - 22 Apr 2019
I have made trial transaction 1 miota on an exchange, but transaction pending for some months, but several days ago it(she) has come,
But together with it all my others have disappeared almost iotas, but not completely.

I have correctly understood that my means now on balance of an exchange and I need to contact exchange support?

@sarmatex555
Your case is different from vict's and your funds are not at an exchange.
Well, the 1 Miota is, but not the rest. Please see my response in your separate thread.


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EricHop - 25 Oct 2017
This is the latest incarnation of an article I wrote around the time of the October 2017 snapshot. I had been helping so many people find their balance again that I decided that my time would be better spent writing the process down for people to follow as a step by step guide that I could refer them to.

First of all, don’t panic, your iotas are most likely perfectly safe.

Second, no matter who or what, *never* give your seed to anyone. Especially not if they say they are an IOTA developer who will help you recover your balance. These people are usually scammers and will try to steal your iotas.

I will show the steps you can take to recover your balance. I will also try to explain to you why this happened. I recommend you take the time to read and understand the how and why. Understanding what you invested in is the best thing you can do to keep your investment safe.

Steps to find your balance

  1. First, make sure you upgrade to version 2.5.7 of the desktop wallet. You can safely skip older versions if you did not install those before. These older versions will no longer work correctly. You can find version 2.5.7 of the desktop wallet for Windows, Mac, and Linux here (don’t get confused by the title of the page, this is the latest wallet):
    https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases
  2. Next, do not get tempted to use the reclaim tool. This tool will not help you regain your balance. It is only helpful in certain very specific cases. I will explain these cases at the end of this list. Just continue with step 3 first to find your balance again. If you did start the reclaim tool unnecessarily there’s no problem. You can still use your old seed and use the next steps to find your balance.
  3. After installing the new wallet you need to set up your wallet correctly. What you need to do is go to Tools->Edit Node Configuration.
  4. Make sure that a Host node is selected. If you see ‘Select Your Host’ in the Host field, use the drop down to select one. Usually any one will do. However, keep in mind that a host may be temporarily offline, so if after selecting one the wallet indicates No Connection you may want to select another Host. To find a node that is reliable use the list you find at:
    https://iota.dance/nodes
    The ones at the top are usually the best ones to select.
  5. Make sure that Min Weight Magnitude is set to 14. Higher values should be no problem but will just cause the Proof of Work to take much longer unnecessarily.
  6. Finally, you see a field that says Curl Implementation. The default is WebGL, which is a setting that allows the wallet to use your graphics card to do the Proof of Work, thereby possibly speeding up the process. However, some people will find that they get an Invalid Transaction Hash when they use this setting. The solutions for that are to either select CCURL instead, or to follow the instructions found in this link to make sure the wallet uses the correct graphics card:
    https://steemit.com/iota/@tector/iota-light-wallet-2-5-1-dealing-with-invalid-transaction-hash
  7. Note that it may be necessary to close and restart the wallet after changing any of those settings. I would do that just to be sure that the changes are activated.
  8. Now you can use your seed to log into the wallet, so you can start finding your balance again. Make absolutely sure that you are using the correct seed. Any typo in the seed will result in a different wallet, and trying to find your balance in there is not going to work, obviously. There is a helpful checksum field next to the field where you can enter your seed. The wallet will tell you if your seed is too short or too long. And if you have entered exactly 81 characters it will show you a 3 character checksum that should always be the same for every version of the wallet. It will allow you to very quickly see if you made a typo, since any typo will result in a different checksum. If you are not sure if you used the correct seed there are instructions further down to help you make sure.
  9. After logging into the wallet you click on the Receive section. It will show you a new receive address. Now click Attach To Tangle. It will show ‘Attaching to Tangle’ for a while. Just wait for that to complete. If it takes too long you could try a different, faster node as outlined in step 4. Once it says ‘Address Attached’ you may see your total balance get updated with the balance of that address. If not, then click ‘Address Attached’. It will now say ‘Generate New Address’. Click that again. That will cause the next address to be generated and it will show ‘Attaching to Tangle’ again. Keep repeating this loop until you have recovered your balance completely. You can click the History section to see how many and which addresses you have generated so far. Addresses can be in pending state but that does not matter for finding your balance. These attachment transactions do not need to confirm at all. They are zero value transactions, so they will not impact your balance anyway. You will need to generate all addresses you have used before for your entire balance to show up again. So if you have an idea of how many you used before that will be helpful. Most people should be able to find some or all of their balance within the first 20–30 addresses. But I know of people who needed to do 150+ re-attachments because they had been very active with their wallet. If your balance started to show up but never completely shows, and does not change any more after re-attaching don’t bother continuing. The funds are usually clustered at the end of the address list. Any funds still missing have probably been taken into custody (this only goes for wallets that have not been updated since before mid October 2017). See below for details on how to verify that.
If you did not manage to find your balance using these steps, I suggest you take the time to read through the explanations below. You need to be able to understand why it still does not show and what you can do about it. If you did find your balance? Congratulations! But I still suggest you educate yourself by reading the below explanations so you know what you are invested in. I know it’s a drag to have to go through such a long document, but we’re still in beta software stage with the wallet and IOTA as a whole. Understanding how it works is equal to protecting yourself from losing your funds.

How does an IOTA wallet work?

Contrary to what most people believe your IOTA wallet does *not* contain your iotas. Instead, your iotas are safely stored in one or more addresses in the Tangle. You can see your wallet as a browser that knows how to retrieve the balance of an address. To do that it contacts a so-called node, and asks it to find the balance of that address in the distributed ledger database that the Tangle actually is. To be able to retrieve your entire balance, the wallet will usually have to retrieve the balances of multiple addresses that belong to your wallet and add them all up. The end result is displayed as your current balance.

Now here is an important thing: the wallet does not know at first how many and which addresses exactly to retrieve to accumulate your balance. The only starting point it has is the 81-character seed you provided when you logged into the wallet. This seed is the key that enables the wallet to always re-generate the addresses used by your wallet deterministically. Deterministically means that given the same seed it will always be able to generate the exact same sequence of addresses one by one. To determine your total accumulated balance the wallet will ask the node for each address balance in succession until the node indicates that an address cannot be found because it is not present in a transaction in the Tangle. This indicates to the wallet that it has not generated/used that address before, so it can safely stop accumulating address balances. This fact is important to remember, because it will shortly explain why your balance is currently zero.

The wallet will generate new addresses as needed in two important ways. First, and most visible, when you want to receive iotas in your wallet you will need to generate a new receive address and attach that to the Tangle. Addresses are not supposed to be re-used because the signing process used to spend funds from an address uses one-time signatures. Because of the one-time nature of the signing process, the private key for that address gets partially exposed by every spend from the same address, opening it to a brute force attack. And since anyone that has the private key to an address can spend the funds in that address it’s not very wise to open yourself up to such an attack. That’s why the wallet tries to defend itself against such attacks by automatically moving the remaining funds after spending to a new address in the wallet. It will also give you a ‘private key reuse’ error whenever you try to spend to or from an address that already was spent from.

So the second way in which the wallet will generate new addresses is by moving the remainder of a spent address to a new address. When you instruct it to send a certain amount of iotas to another address, what it will do is go through the known addresses in your wallet one by one, starting from the first, by generating the addresses in sequence from the seed. The wallet accumulates the amount of iotas it finds along the way on addresses with a non-zero balance, until it has accumulated enough iotas to cover the amount you want to send. The contents of the non-zero addresses it has accumulated in this way will be sent as a single transfer to the receiving address and -if there is a remainder- the remainder will be sent as a second transfer to a newly generated address in your wallet. This will cause the latter address to be attached to the Tangle, so it lives there now, and the wallet will be able to see it as in use already whenever it scans for your balance as outlined above. All addresses used as the input for the transaction will end up having a zero balance, so they are not likely to be re-used any more, unless you make the mistake of not creating a new receive address but re-using a previous one.

It is important for the snapshot recovery process that you have an idea of how many addresses were in use before you ‘lost’ your balance (before the snapshot happened, see below). For most people that will be up to one or two dozen addresses. But for people who used the wallet regularly before the snapshot happened that can easily go up in the hundreds. I personally have helped someone retrieve his balance who had 150+ addresses in use in his wallet.

Why is my balance zero?

To understand what happened you need to know what happens when the IOTA foundation generates a new snapshot of the IOTA ledger database. This is done every now and then for maintenance reasons. The last snapshot was created on January 28th, 2018. One reason for taking a snapshot is that the Tangle is constantly expanding, and therefore taking up more and more memory. To help nodes in keeping the amount of memory they need for storing the database limited, the Tangle is pruned by removing the history of transactions. Remember that after every transaction you end up with no longer used addresses with a zero balance. The transactions that caused these only take up space and are no longer necessary for correct functioning of the nodes. There are even more ways that can cause zero balance transactions to occur, like when a wallet generates and attaches a new address to the Tangle. There are also transactions that are used as messages between systems and do not contain any balance.

So after a snapshot is taken the end result is a simple list of all addresses that contain a non-zero balance and their respective balances, plus a list of all addresses that have been spent from in the past, and no history of how those balances happened is preserved on the regular nodes. By the way, this history does get preserved on so called perma-nodes, like ioatsear.ch and thetangle.org, which will keep track of the entire history all the way back to the first transaction ever. But for most use cases this history is not necessary. It’s only the non-zero end balances that are important, since they are the only ones that can be spent.

Note that the snapshot process is such that any transactions that were not confirmed yet while the snapshot was being taken will be canceled and it will be as if the funds never left the wallet of the sender. So that means some transactions may have to be performed again once you have restored your wallet. A deposit from your wallet to Bitfinex that was canceled will have never left your wallet. A withdrawal from Bitfinex to your wallet that was canceled will have never left the Bitfinex wallet. Just send those transactions again when that happened. They should pose no problem. But make sure to confirm them quickly by reattaching/promoting them until they are confirmed.

Now, remember how the wallet will figure out its balance? It will ask a node to retrieve the balances of each address it generates in succession from the seed, starting with the first one, that has been used in a transaction, until it finds a non-used address, which indicates that the wallet did not generate that address before. However, since the snapshot has removed all historical transactions the first address it checks will not be found to be used by a transaction in the Tangle, and so the wallet stops scanning for balances immediately, because it thinks it has not generated that address yet, ultimately resulting in a zero accumulated balance.

So that’s the reason you see a zero balance. The wallet simply stopped scanning for addresses with balances too soon, because it does not know that the snapshot process has removed the transaction history. This means that the remedy for finding your balance is simple. Start re-generating and attaching your previously used receive addresses one by one. This will cause zero-balance transactions using that address to be connected to the Tangle. Which means the wallet now can see the address is in use in the Tangle and ask the node for the corresponding balance. In particular, you need to do this as many times as you had used addresses in the past, so that they can all be found in the Tangle again. To be sure, this can be a tedious process and it would have been nice if the wallet designers had included a command that allows you to tell it to generate the next X addresses until it finds one with a balance. But that is not the case at the moment, so there is no use in complaining right now. I am sure this feature will show up in a next incarnation of the wallet.

Why is the wallet still not able to find my balance?

The Sep 22nd and Oct 24th Snapshot processes have done two additional maintenance tasks that may result in you still not being able to successfully retrieve your correct balance.

First, since the implementation of the signing function has changed from CURL to KERL, in August there was a need to transition balances to the use of the new KERL implementation. A lot of people already did this transition as part of their upgrading their wallet from an older version to version 2.4.0. Since it turned out that there are people who managed to lose their seed and also many people who did not transition yet, the IOTA foundation has taken the precaution to remove those old-style CURL addresses from the Tangle and has taken custody of them. So if your previous wallet was from before version 2.4.0 you may fall into that category. You will need to use the reclaim tool as explained further down to reclaim those funds.

Second, because it was found that quite a number of people had spent multiple times from the same address, thereby exposing their funds to being stolen, the IOTA foundation decided to take similar custody of those addresses so they are no longer vulnerable. That means if you accidentally spent from the same address more than once in the past, and this address was still holding a balance, you will need to use the reclaim tool as explained further down to reclaim those funds.

In both cases one or more of your address balances may still be ‘missing’ even after the wallet has re-generated the missing address in the Tangle. The balance of such addresses was moved to the IOTA foundation custody address. You can check for those addresses if you think that may be what has happened to them here:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/cyclux/2bb05d873c4ec6115cad1d100263d489/raw/612a49e46091586957448f6606ea981ab18022e7/snapshot_validation_20171023.txt
Allow for the page to load before searching through it, as it is a huge list.

You just copy an address you want to find out about to the clipboard, and then use control-F and paste to search on that page. Make sure you only use the first 81 characters of the address, as the 9 character checksum is not present in this list. I usually just paste the address and delete the last 9 characters.

If your address shows a category of KEY_REUSE or KEY_REUSE_OCT in this list then you have executed more than one spend from that address and the balance is now in custody of the IOTA foundation until you reclaim it.

If your address shows a category of CURL_UNUSED then your address was not transitioned to the new KERL implementation yet and the balance is also in custody of the IOTA foundation until you reclaim it.

If your address shows a category of NONE or AVAILABLE then your address was okay and should still be present in the Tangle unless you moved the funds at a later date.
For more details, see this announcement from the foundation:
https://forum.iota.org/t/snapshot-public-validation-22-09-2017/4256

How do I make sure I am using the correct seed?

If you don’t remember the 3-character checksum or in any other way are unsure if you are using the correct seed, here are ways to find out:

  • If you know roughly how many addresses you used to have in your wallet, just go ahead and re-generate at least that amount of new receive addresses (detailed steps below). Along the way, usually towards the end, you should see your balance increasing. If your balance becomes non-zero that is a clue that you are definitely in your own wallet with the correct seed. If you cannot seem to get the entire balance you may either need to generate even more addresses, or some of your funds were taken into custody by the IOTA foundation for the reasons described above. In that case you will have to check the addresses which you think should contain a non-zero balance against the snapshot list. And if you find them there, you will have to reclaim them using the reclaim tool.
  • Making double sure that you are using the correct wallet can be easily done by using the iotasear.ch or thetangle.org Tangle browsers to check the history of an address. This means you can copy the first address and see if in the past funds were there. Assuming the first address was the first one to receive funds, of course. If it did contain funds in the past the amount is probably recognizable as your first IOTA withdrawal ever. Anyway, when any funds are there in the iotasear.ch or thetangle.org history you can be sure you have used this seed before.

How do I use the reclaim tool?

If you are absolutely sure that the IOTA foundation took custody of some of your funds after checking the above, you will need to use the reclaim tool to reclaim your funds. Note that the reclaim process is a two-step process currently.

NOTE: to make sure that you don’t make any typos when entering your old and new seeds with this tool i highly suggest you copy/paste them from a proven working copy. It would be silly to finally reclaim your funds to a seed that contains a typo and therefore the reclaimed funds would become irretrievable.

UPDATE: The reclaim tool in phase 2 will ask once again for the new seed, so unless you make the same typo twice this seems not really to be a problem.
In case multiple reclaims were put in, the one confirmed in the lowest milestone will be the one processed.

For more details on how to use the reclaim tool see this link for phase 1:
https://blog.iota.org/gui-v2-5-2-latest-release-with-iota-reclaim-tool-32d364d6241a
And this link for phase 2:
https://blog.iota.org/gui-wallet-phase-two-of-the-reclaim-process-f5913109cf46

I hope this was helpful to you
Enjoy IOTA, let’s make it a success!

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Hi, my name is Radek.

I would like to ask you for your help.
My wallet Iota reports 0 balance.
I communicated with Winston a and we agreed that I had a bad seed.

Apparently you can help. If yes I will reward you.

Please help me.

Thanks.

Radek

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@alexa
Hi, my name is Radek.

I would like to ask you for your help.
My wallet Iota reports 0 balance.
I communicated with Winston a and we agreed that I had a bad seed.

Apparently you can help. If yes I will reward you.

Please help me.

Thanks.

Radek

@mattycz
Hi Radek,
I wish I could help you, but unfortunately there’s nothing I could add to what Winston told you already.
If your seed can’t generate the address you’re looking for, then it’s not the same seed that was used to generate this address the first time.
The only method I know to check for typos is fvantom’s tool, which you seem to have tried already without success.
I’m really sorry, but if you can’t find the right seed to your address nobody can help you recover these funds.


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Thanks for the reply. I will ask ! January 31, I created a seed in Iota Trinity for Android, which I immediately backed up to SeedVault20190131-1717.kdbx. Then I sent the money to the generated address. I didn't do anything in 14 days and then I had to reinstall the system on my phone. Then I couldn't get into my wallet. The seed is in the file so it couldn't be overwritten. Where I made a mistake.

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@CryptoHamster@Winston
Thanks for the reply. I will ask ! January 31, I created a seed in Iota Trinity for Android, which I immediately backed up to SeedVault20190131-1717.kdbx. Then I sent the money to the generated address. I didn't do anything in 14 days and then I had to reinstall the system on my phone. Then I couldn't get into my wallet. The seed is in the file so it couldn't be overwritten. Where I made a mistake.

@mattycz
I have no idea, maybe you didn’t even make any mistake and some kind of bug causes your problem.
I think it would be best if you talk directly to the Trinity developers on Discord. The #trinity-discussion channel should be the right place to ask.
Here’s an invite link: https://discord.gg/hgbDnBd

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I think it is a very useful and informative explanation. Yes, I know that IOTA wallet doesn't contain the coins itself, and I think that non-custodial wallets will soon overrun others for the reason of security

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@CryptoHamster @Winston
I'm starting to think it's a scam to get someone out of money. It is not possible to make a mistake in automatic seed backup.
Can I make a claim somewhere?
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@CryptoHamster @Winston
I'm starting to think it's a scam to get someone out of money. It is not possible to make a mistake in automatic seed backup.
Can I make a claim somewhere?
@mattycz
I’m sorry this is happening to you, but calling IOTA a scam sure isn’t going to help.
How did your Discord conversation go? Last thing I saw was Rajiv asking if you noted the seed’s checksum when you created it, but I can’t find your reply to this question. Did you continue in a private conversation? However, if the Trinity developers couldn’t help you, I have no ideas left either.
If you haven’t done so already, maybe open a new issue here on github in case they find a solution later on: 
https://github.com/iotaledger/trinity-wallet/issues.

About claiming your funds: No, there’s no way of doing so as you agreed upon using Trinity at your own risk by accepting the terms of use.
In general, cryptocurrencies are always about „being your own bank“, so there’s no entity to turn to if something goes wrong.

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Hello,
I also have a problem with the transaction of my coin. I do not know if it is the same together as it was before with others.

Also I have sent on 06.12.2019 1 Mi as the first test transaction to my ledger. Afterwards, I easily made further transactions. Since I updated the Trinitity Wallet a few weeks ago, this one transaction has always seemed incomplete to me, as if it keeps trying to send. Today I have easily transferred coins from my online wallet to my Trinity Wallet. I wanted to transfer these from there to my ledger. However, the same problem seems to be the case with the 1 Mi test. The 8.2 Gi are also on my main account (Trinity Wallet) with the note sending ... But nothing else happens. How can you proceed now? I would be very pleased about a quick feedback. I have recreated the wallet address and never used it twice. Perhaps this is where the bundle hash GHEGLQNLKHDAWCBHRFAIAEXJTGSXJWWDL9ELUCRLRCTOYUKCHZXYTWPKLCBLFWEZLRHLRHHU9APIS9TC helps
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Hello,
I also have a problem with the transaction of my coin. I do not know if it is the same together as it was before with others.

Also I have sent on 06.12.2019 1 Mi as the first test transaction to my ledger. Afterwards, I easily made further transactions. Since I updated the Trinitity Wallet a few weeks ago, this one transaction has always seemed incomplete to me, as if it keeps trying to send. Today I have easily transferred coins from my online wallet to my Trinity Wallet. I wanted to transfer these from there to my ledger. However, the same problem seems to be the case with the 1 Mi test. The 8.2 Gi are also on my main account (Trinity Wallet) with the note sending ... But nothing else happens. How can you proceed now? I would be very pleased about a quick feedback. I have recreated the wallet address and never used it twice. Perhaps this is where the bundle hash GHEGLQNLKHDAWCBHRFAIAEXJTGSXJWWDL9ELUCRLRCTOYUKCHZXYTWPKLCBLFWEZLRHLRHHU9APIS9TC helps

The problem has resolved after I tried to pass the transaction on to the Tangle several times. The basic problem, however, is the 1 Mi test transaction, which was carried out and confirmed in December. This is still displayed in my history as pending and produced in the Trinity Wallet the problems
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Hello,
I also have a problem with the transaction of my coin. I do not know if it is the same together as it was before with others.

Also I have sent on 06.12.2019 1 Mi as the first test transaction to my ledger. Afterwards, I easily made further transactions. Since I updated the Trinitity Wallet a few weeks ago, this one transaction has always seemed incomplete to me, as if it keeps trying to send. Today I have easily transferred coins from my online wallet to my Trinity Wallet. I wanted to transfer these from there to my ledger. However, the same problem seems to be the case with the 1 Mi test. The 8.2 Gi are also on my main account (Trinity Wallet) with the note sending ... But nothing else happens. How can you proceed now? I would be very pleased about a quick feedback. I have recreated the wallet address and never used it twice. Perhaps this is where the bundle hash GHEGLQNLKHDAWCBHRFAIAEXJTGSXJWWDL9ELUCRLRCTOYUKCHZXYTWPKLCBLFWEZLRHLRHHU9APIS9TC helps

The problem has resolved after I tried to pass the transaction on to the Tangle several times. The basic problem, however, is the 1 Mi test transaction, which was carried out and confirmed in December. This is still displayed in my history as pending and produced in the Trinity Wallet the problems

@thetrailer
Thanks for the posts, and welcome to the forum.

The bundle hash in your first post isn't found on the tangle explorer. Could you post the address that holds your balance so that we can take a look at it together?
 EDIT: My assumption is that you're seeing a pending transaction because it's one of two that were previously sent, and the other was subsequently confirmed. Pending transaction clones of this sort remain pending forever since the value has been transferred in the other confirmed transaction already. We can confirm this by taking a look at your address and transaction history though.
 

 


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Hello,
I also have a problem with the transaction of my coin. I do not know if it is the same together as it was before with others.

Also I have sent on 06.12.2019 1 Mi as the first test transaction to my ledger. Afterwards, I easily made further transactions. Since I updated the Trinitity Wallet a few weeks ago, this one transaction has always seemed incomplete to me, as if it keeps trying to send. Today I have easily transferred coins from my online wallet to my Trinity Wallet. I wanted to transfer these from there to my ledger. However, the same problem seems to be the case with the 1 Mi test. The 8.2 Gi are also on my main account (Trinity Wallet) with the note sending ... But nothing else happens. How can you proceed now? I would be very pleased about a quick feedback. I have recreated the wallet address and never used it twice. Perhaps this is where the bundle hash GHEGLQNLKHDAWCBHRFAIAEXJTGSXJWWDL9ELUCRLRCTOYUKCHZXYTWPKLCBLFWEZLRHLRHHU9APIS9TC helps

The problem has resolved after I tried to pass the transaction on to the Tangle several times. The basic problem, however, is the 1 Mi test transaction, which was carried out and confirmed in December. This is still displayed in my history as pending and produced in the Trinity Wallet the problems

@thetrailer
Thanks for the posts, and welcome to the forum.

The bundle hash in your first post isn't found on the tangle explorer. Could you post the address that holds your balance so that we can take a look at it together?
 EDIT: My assumption is that you're seeing a pending transaction because it's one of two that were previously sent, and the other was subsequently confirmed. Pending transaction clones of this sort remain pending forever since the value has been transferred in the other confirmed transaction already. We can confirm this by taking a look at your address and transaction history though.
 

 


Hi Winston,
can you check the Bundle-Hash of that Transaction OGXKXI9WCHJVDNFAYZULTWKXGNHVHBKEGJQJLQIDNEDIFVPESVHWYXTGKKDDRVQEKARUAYJSVXQPD9ID9. It is very confusing and unsettling to constantly receive the message in the trinity wallet "transaction couldn´t be broadcasted". Thanks in advance for your answer
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