Validity in the Tangle


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Thoughts and ideas following this story are welcome.
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Hi Clara, interesting read. The last part confuses me a little: Does this mean that until the 'one property rule to rule them all' has been found, the coordinator can not be shut off permanently?

Have you looked at the PARSEC consensus protocol? https://medium.com/safenetwork/parsec-a-paradigm-shift-for-asynchronous-and-permissionless-consensus-e312d721f9d8 

I am by no means an expert so maybe I am comparing apples with oranges here, but it seems like it could be beneficial to IOTA as well.
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pevw - 2 Oct 2018
Hi Clara, interesting read. The last part confuses me a little: Does this mean that until the 'one property rule to rule them all' has been found, the coordinator can not be shut off permanently?

Have you looked at the PARSEC consensus protocol? https://medium.com/safenetwork/parsec-a-paradigm-shift-for-asynchronous-and-permissionless-consensus-e312d721f9d8 

I am by no means an expert so maybe I am comparing apples with oranges here, but it seems like it could be beneficial to IOTA as well.

This is not standing in the way of shutting of the coordinator.
We have safe properties, but there are other things to take into account and we are considering them.

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Hello Clara,

thanks for this article - this was a very interesting read!
May I lead my post with asking if you are looking for any more researchers in this area?

I myself was asking questions about the validity problem in the Tangle before and actually planned on basing my diploma thesis on this topic. I wanted to focus more on the transaction ordering of smart contacts, because i found the Qubic roadmap a bit lacking in this regard (there is a comprehensive section on the processing phase of a single epoch, but not on how one would base a transaction on top of another) - so this seemed like a wonderful opportunity to start some research by defining basic requirements a smart contract must fulfill; and how such properties could look like in a DAG. 

But your work seems even more fundamental than that, so I'd like to ask how advanced your work already is, and if you would be interested in some kind of collaboration? I'm a master's degree student of computer sciene at the Technical University of Vienna and me and my professor would be happy to work together with the IOTA foundation on solving these fascinating problems - and improving IOTA on the way. 

Best,
Lukas

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Enis Olgac - 2 Oct 2018
Hi Clara,

Very interesting reading. I have some thoughts on this subject, but I'm not sure where to start with. I believe we need some consensus what the discussion should be based on. So let me first ask a question: Did you ever made an entry in a conventional ledger? This may sound very personal, but it is very important to decide on the level of discussion. Thanks in advance.

I have, but I would suggest to keep it basic so others can join.
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luhe - 2 Oct 2018
Hello Clara,

thanks for this article - this was a very interesting read!
May I lead my post with asking if you are looking for any more researchers in this area?

I myself was asking questions about the validity problem in the Tangle before and actually planned on basing my diploma thesis on this topic. I wanted to focus more on the transaction ordering of smart contacts, because i found the Qubic roadmap a bit lacking in this regard (there is a comprehensive section on the processing phase of a single epoch, but not on how one would base a transaction on top of another) - so this seemed like a wonderful opportunity to start some research by defining basic requirements a smart contract must fulfill; and how such properties could look like in a DAG. 

But your work seems even more fundamental than that, so I'd like to ask how advanced your work already is, and if you would be interested in some kind of collaboration? I'm a master's degree student of computer sciene at the Technical University of Vienna and me and my professor would be happy to work together with the IOTA foundation on solving these fascinating problems - and improving IOTA on the way. 

Best,
Lukas

Hi Lukas,

We love cooperations with external researchers and this sounds like a good opportunity.
I'll message you with some contact details.

Best,
Clara.
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