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Hello, 

I don`t know what to do, so I´m looking for help.

I wanted to send 2500+ miota to coinfalcon from my trinity wallet.
But the transfer was not confirmed till now.

I can´t stop the transfer, and it is to old, to reorder it.
Also I can´t make a new transfer, because the wallet says, my balance isn`t availabel, it is in another order.
So I`m sitting here, I have 2500 miota in my wallet, but I can`t send them.

If I make the manual snyc, all my 2500+ miota are there, but I can`t do anything with them.

The bundle is:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX 

So please help me!


Hallo,

ich habe versucht von meinem trinity wallet 2500+ miota zu coinfalcon zu schicken. 
Dieser transfer ist bis heute nicht bestätigt.
Auch nach einer manuellen Synchronisierung sind meine 2500+ miota im wallet, aber wenn ich versuche sie woanders hinzuschicken, bekomme ich die Fehlermeldung, dass diese bereits in einer Transaktion sind.
Ich kann die alte Transaktion aber nicht abbrechen, auch kann ich sie nicht neu beauftragen, da sie zu alt ist.

Das hier ist der bundle:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX
Bitte helft mir!
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el Yeti - 18 Aug 2018
Hello, 

I don`t know what to do, so I´m looking for help.

I wanted to send 2500+ miota to coinfalcon from my trinity wallet.
But the transfer was not confirmed till now.

I can´t stop the transfer, and it is to old, to reorder it.
Also I can´t make a new transfer, because the wallet says, my balance isn`t availabel, it is in another order.
So I`m sitting here, I have 2500 miota in my wallet, but I can`t send them.

If I make the manual snyc, all my 2500+ miota are there, but I can`t do anything with them.

The bundle is:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX 

So please help me!


Hallo,

ich habe versucht von meinem trinity wallet 2500+ miota zu coinfalcon zu schicken. 
Dieser transfer ist bis heute nicht bestätigt.
Auch nach einer manuellen Synchronisierung sind meine 2500+ miota im wallet, aber wenn ich versuche sie woanders hinzuschicken, bekomme ich die Fehlermeldung, dass diese bereits in einer Transaktion sind.
Ich kann die alte Transaktion aber nicht abbrechen, auch kann ich sie nicht neu beauftragen, da sie zu alt ist.

Das hier ist der bundle:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX
Bitte helft mir!

Hi @el Yeti,
welcome to Hello IOTA!

Here's your bundle on the tangle explorer: 
https://thetangle.org/bundle/VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX

When you click on the two input addresses with 1 Gi, you'll find that they are empty now because a previous transaction confirmed first. 
This makes your pending transaction invalid now and it can never confirm. You can't cancel it either and reattaching doesn't help
(I accidentally did this right now, but it doesn't matter).

Your 2 Gi are now here and I suspect that this is another address of your own wallet and therefore the total balance is unchanged in Trinity:
https://thetangle.org/address/UKSVBNUFDMOTLEVFCZRQCCEFKLXCTFFQQFWQZMCMS9ZGJVCHHUQXEGXMKV9BCNVIJXWCKTTSBYIIMIJF9

You should be able to make a new transaction to Coinfalcon with a value of 2 Gi.

But the rest of your balance (500.497 Miota) is stuck on this address and can't be used in a new transaction:
https://thetangle.org/address/S9AIKTRXEULCXWNGAWRJPDUD9JTYSPLDGSRQSKRANURTBKBSHJ9GS9RCZMJUAFOUIWFU9FGLC9CZTDZAD

You will not be able to send these 500.497 Miota anywhere with Trinity or the Lightwallet because it would put these funds in danger. 
I suggest you read both parts of this blogpost, which explains your situation and has a step by step guide on how to fix this: 
https://medium.com/coinmonks/private-key-reuse-detected-what-it-means-and-how-to-unblock-your-funds-383eeb8ca036

If you need any assistance fixing it, you'll find real time help on our Discord in the #help channel. Here's an invite: https://discord.gg/hgbDnBd 
You can also send a Private Message on Discord to "HBMY289#1458". He wrote the blogpost and he speaks German, too.

Good luck!


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Alexa - 18 Aug 2018
el Yeti - 18 Aug 2018
Hello, 

I don`t know what to do, so I´m looking for help.

I wanted to send 2500+ miota to coinfalcon from my trinity wallet.
But the transfer was not confirmed till now.

I can´t stop the transfer, and it is to old, to reorder it.
Also I can´t make a new transfer, because the wallet says, my balance isn`t availabel, it is in another order.
So I`m sitting here, I have 2500 miota in my wallet, but I can`t send them.

If I make the manual snyc, all my 2500+ miota are there, but I can`t do anything with them.

The bundle is:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX 

So please help me!


Hallo,

ich habe versucht von meinem trinity wallet 2500+ miota zu coinfalcon zu schicken. 
Dieser transfer ist bis heute nicht bestätigt.
Auch nach einer manuellen Synchronisierung sind meine 2500+ miota im wallet, aber wenn ich versuche sie woanders hinzuschicken, bekomme ich die Fehlermeldung, dass diese bereits in einer Transaktion sind.
Ich kann die alte Transaktion aber nicht abbrechen, auch kann ich sie nicht neu beauftragen, da sie zu alt ist.

Das hier ist der bundle:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX
Bitte helft mir!

Hi @el Yeti,
welcome to Hello IOTA!

Here's your bundle on the tangle explorer: 
https://thetangle.org/bundle/VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX

When you click on the two input addresses with 1 Gi, you'll find that they are empty now because a previous transaction confirmed first. 
This makes your pending transaction invalid now and it can never confirm. You can't cancel it either and reattaching doesn't help
(I accidentally did this right now, but it doesn't matter).

Your 2 Gi are now here and I suspect that this is another address of your own wallet and therefore the total balance is unchanged in Trinity:
https://thetangle.org/address/UKSVBNUFDMOTLEVFCZRQCCEFKLXCTFFQQFWQZMCMS9ZGJVCHHUQXEGXMKV9BCNVIJXWCKTTSBYIIMIJF9

You should be able to make a new transaction to Coinfalcon with a value of 2 Gi.

But the rest of your balance (500.497 Miota) is stuck on this address and can't be used in a new transaction:
https://thetangle.org/address/S9AIKTRXEULCXWNGAWRJPDUD9JTYSPLDGSRQSKRANURTBKBSHJ9GS9RCZMJUAFOUIWFU9FGLC9CZTDZAD

You will not be able to send these 500.497 Miota anywhere with Trinity or the Lightwallet because it would put these funds in danger. 
I suggest you read both parts of this blogpost, which explains your situation and has a step by step guide on how to fix this: 
https://medium.com/coinmonks/private-key-reuse-detected-what-it-means-and-how-to-unblock-your-funds-383eeb8ca036

If you need any assistance fixing it, you'll find real time help on our Discord in the #help channel. Here's an invite: https://discord.gg/hgbDnBd 
You can also send a Private Message on Discord to "HBMY289#1458". He wrote the blogpost and he speaks German, too.

Good luck!

hi, thank you very much :-)

the transfer is confirmed.OUPQPTUEYCJHDVACCDUHKPRFKDIVJJCHZJRQAA9CROIRBEBEUNWJZYCQ9PBERXU9RGHI9RXSKTCEHKJZB   

With des description of my problem you are nearly right.

The whole thing is, that I was afraid to have all my iotas in only one wallet. So I bought a second android phone to have a second trinity wallet.
I used nearly the same seed, only one letter I changed.
Also, on the second phone I used the same password as on the first one.
I was sure, if one letter is changed in the seed, it will be a new wallet.

But as I startet the new wallet, there was a balance of 2Gi instead of zero.
I recogniced, that I opend my first wallet on a second phone.
In panic I planned to withdrawal my iotas.
At first on my first phone, there was the right balance of 2,5+Gi,
an at second on my second phone.
The second transaction was confirmed, the first transaction was still pending.

I thought, if I deposit it again with 2Gi, I am able to reattach the transaction. But you know, ist doesn`t worked.

So on my experience I have a last question. Is ist normal, if I only change one letter in a seed, that the new wallet isn`t a new one?
Or is it an error that is not planned at all?

Thank you very much and excuse my bad english.

Greetings
Alexa
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el Yeti - 18 Aug 2018
Alexa - 18 Aug 2018
el Yeti - 18 Aug 2018
Hello, 

I don`t know what to do, so I´m looking for help.

I wanted to send 2500+ miota to coinfalcon from my trinity wallet.
But the transfer was not confirmed till now.

I can´t stop the transfer, and it is to old, to reorder it.
Also I can´t make a new transfer, because the wallet says, my balance isn`t availabel, it is in another order.
So I`m sitting here, I have 2500 miota in my wallet, but I can`t send them.

If I make the manual snyc, all my 2500+ miota are there, but I can`t do anything with them.

The bundle is:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX 

So please help me!


Hallo,

ich habe versucht von meinem trinity wallet 2500+ miota zu coinfalcon zu schicken. 
Dieser transfer ist bis heute nicht bestätigt.
Auch nach einer manuellen Synchronisierung sind meine 2500+ miota im wallet, aber wenn ich versuche sie woanders hinzuschicken, bekomme ich die Fehlermeldung, dass diese bereits in einer Transaktion sind.
Ich kann die alte Transaktion aber nicht abbrechen, auch kann ich sie nicht neu beauftragen, da sie zu alt ist.

Das hier ist der bundle:VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX
Bitte helft mir!

Hi @el Yeti,
welcome to Hello IOTA!

Here's your bundle on the tangle explorer: 
https://thetangle.org/bundle/VWJSOIDIOOUNCZDKLQKJCEVRZENJCEKWKWYHEQYYJFFCLZXLLDCBZZRVKKTFF9IPFOAXUKACGLXXXDGYX

When you click on the two input addresses with 1 Gi, you'll find that they are empty now because a previous transaction confirmed first. 
This makes your pending transaction invalid now and it can never confirm. You can't cancel it either and reattaching doesn't help
(I accidentally did this right now, but it doesn't matter).

Your 2 Gi are now here and I suspect that this is another address of your own wallet and therefore the total balance is unchanged in Trinity:
https://thetangle.org/address/UKSVBNUFDMOTLEVFCZRQCCEFKLXCTFFQQFWQZMCMS9ZGJVCHHUQXEGXMKV9BCNVIJXWCKTTSBYIIMIJF9

You should be able to make a new transaction to Coinfalcon with a value of 2 Gi.

But the rest of your balance (500.497 Miota) is stuck on this address and can't be used in a new transaction:
https://thetangle.org/address/S9AIKTRXEULCXWNGAWRJPDUD9JTYSPLDGSRQSKRANURTBKBSHJ9GS9RCZMJUAFOUIWFU9FGLC9CZTDZAD

You will not be able to send these 500.497 Miota anywhere with Trinity or the Lightwallet because it would put these funds in danger. 
I suggest you read both parts of this blogpost, which explains your situation and has a step by step guide on how to fix this: 
https://medium.com/coinmonks/private-key-reuse-detected-what-it-means-and-how-to-unblock-your-funds-383eeb8ca036

If you need any assistance fixing it, you'll find real time help on our Discord in the #help channel. Here's an invite: https://discord.gg/hgbDnBd 
You can also send a Private Message on Discord to "HBMY289#1458". He wrote the blogpost and he speaks German, too.

Good luck!

hi, thank you very much :-)

the transfer is confirmed.OUPQPTUEYCJHDVACCDUHKPRFKDIVJJCHZJRQAA9CROIRBEBEUNWJZYCQ9PBERXU9RGHI9RXSKTCEHKJZB   

With des description of my problem you are nearly right.

The whole thing is, that I was afraid to have all my iotas in only one wallet. So I bought a second android phone to have a second trinity wallet.
I used nearly the same seed, only one letter I changed.
Also, on the second phone I used the same password as on the first one.
I was sure, if one letter is changed in the seed, it will be a new wallet.

But as I startet the new wallet, there was a balance of 2Gi instead of zero.
I recogniced, that I opend my first wallet on a second phone.
In panic I planned to withdrawal my iotas.
At first on my first phone, there was the right balance of 2,5+Gi,
an at second on my second phone.
The second transaction was confirmed, the first transaction was still pending.

I thought, if I deposit it again with 2Gi, I am able to reattach the transaction. But you know, ist doesn`t worked.

So on my experience I have a last question. Is ist normal, if I only change one letter in a seed, that the new wallet isn`t a new one?
Or is it an error that is not planned at all?

Thank you very much and excuse my bad english.

Greetings

Don't worry about your English, it's totally fine. Smile
You could have reattached your old pending bundle if you deposited 1 Gi each again to the same addresses that you used in that bundle.
This would have worked, but it would have sent your funds to already used addresses and you'd have ended up using the CLI either way.
But then, instead of putting only your 500 Mi at risk, you would have had 2 Gi at risk. The way you did it is better and I'm happy that you figured it out and fixed it!

Your funds are never stored "in a wallet". They are stored on addresses on the tangle, which derive from your seed. The wallet is just a little tool to let you access these addresses. As long as your seed is secure and safely stored, like one would assume with Trinity, you should be fine. Even if you lose your phone, you can always still access your funds with your seed backup on a different device or even with a different wallet (Lightwallet for PC for example).
So, I'm not sure how having two phones would make anything more secure. If you are afraid of having your whole balance on just one seed for some reason, just split your funds on two seeds. You don't need two phones for this though, Trinity supports having multiple accounts (=seeds):
https://docs.iota.works/trinity/setup/account-name

Your question about the overlap of addresses when another seed is only slightly different has been answered by CfB here:
https://iota.stackexchange.com/questions/437/if-i-increment-the-first-tryte-of-seed-a-to-obtain-seed-b-why-does-seed-b-retai/

I wouldn't be able to help anyone without thetangle.org-explorer. If you feel like you want to support its developer Mathieu Viossat in maintaining his service, please consider a donation to the address shown here: https://thetangle.org/about. Thank you!
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